An Illustrated Carl Family History
version 1.0*
with philosophical musings by
Charlotte Carl-Mitchell
November, 2002
* More information will be added
as I go through more of the family papers
and get feedback from family members.
Edward
Miller Carl, Jr.'s family
Mercy Ramsey
and Ed Carl were married on 12 June 1940 at the Central Christian Church
in Austin, Texas. They were the parents of Madeline (Beall), Catherine
(Dalferes) and Charlotte (Carl-Mitchell).
Edward
Miller Carl, Jr. was born on 15 May 1909 near
Pettys Chapel, east of Corsicana, Texas, the son of Edward Miller and Euna
Posey Carl. In 1919 his parents separated and he moved with his father and
sister, Minnie, to San Antonio. He graduated from San Antonio's Main Avenue
High School and then entered Texas A & M in College Station in September
1926.
PICTURES
FROM ED'S CHILDHOOD,
YOUTH, ADULTHOOD
In 1928
he met Mercy Ramsey when he was matched up with her during a double date
to the annual Thanksgiving football game between UT and Texas A&M.
He graduated with a BS degree in Electrical Engineering and a 2nd lieutenant's
Army reserve commission in 1931. It took him an extra year to graduate
because at the beginning of his 1929/30 senior year, he was appointed Organization
Editor for the A&M annual and he had to make several trips away from
school to coordinate plans with the book's publisher. This caused him to
get behind in his senior E.E. lab experiments and he had to go back for another
full year to complete the work. During the Great Depression he found work
where he could, on an oil tanker, as a night-operator at a filling station,
a clerk in a grocery store and manager of a farm. He had maintained his
status as a Reserve Officer and in the fall of 1936, he was ordered to report
for duty with a company of the Civilian Conservation Corps. During this
time he developed pneumonia and tuberculosis, was given medical leave and
spent several years off and on in Army Tubercular Hospitals.
PICTURES
OF ED'S FAMILY;
MADELINE'S , CATHERINE'S, CHARLOTTE'S GROWING
YEARS; OES
He had corresponded with Mercy over the years and even with his medical problems, they decided to marry which they did on 12 June 1940. In February 1941 he joined the Texas Highway Department and worked there for thirty two years during which time he was Senior Resident Engineer in charge of several highway projects and was eventually placed in charge of the Department's Highway Illumination and Research division and later the formation of the Department's first Archeology section. In 1971 he was appointed to the National Cooperative Highway Research Program advisory panel of the National Academy of Sciences because of his work on high level lighting. But in 1972 his health worsened and he had to retire. Over the years he too had been active in the Austin community. In 1943 and 1944, he served as scoutmaster for a boy scout troop. He was a Mason and member of the local Scottish Rite Consistory and Ben Hur Shrine Temple. He was supportive of his daughters' work in Rainbow and in 1962 was General Chairman of the Grand Assembly when it was held in Austin. In 1966-67, 1973-74 and 1980-81, he served as Worthy Patron of Austin Chapter #304, Order of the Eastern Star. He loved to fish and built his own boat for the purpose. He was proud of his German heritage and after retirement spent a lot of time doing genealogical research on his family (which has helped make this history much easier). He had a quiet sense of humor and a twinkle in his eyes when he said something funny. He was kind and generous to all he met and the overflow crowd at his funeral attested to the high regard in which he was held. He died on 27 January 1987 in Austin and is buried in the Austin Memorial Park cemetery.
Some fond
memories: To show his quiet wisdom, I remember coming to him in tears when
I got my first speeding ticket. Instead of being upset, he said the experience
would teach me a lesson that might save my life one day - don't drive
recklessly. Even though he was often confused for a Methodist minister because
he was so serious, he could be funny. During one of our typically loud
and silly Sunday dinners, he got up from the table. When we asked him where
he was going, he looked at us with a twinkle in his eye and said, ÒI
have to tinkle.Ó a shockingly funny remark from him. When Smoot and
I were planning our wedding we didn't want the large, formal affairs Madeline
and Catherine had had. Mother was not OK with this, but Daddy said if I wanted
him to come in overalls, he would. Some of his favorite foods: Durkee's
sandwiches, buttermilk and Vienna sausages!
Memories
from Beverly:
* playing
hours of dominoes and on several occasions he taped our conversations
* eating
Rotelle (sp) with him at the end of the kitchen table
* shopping
at M.W (Montgomery Wards)
Memories
from Holly:
* Swinging
with Dadders and playing on the Whirly-Gig.
* Badminton
in the yard.
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Previous
Generation
Euna Posey and Edward
Carl were married on 13 April 1906 in Houston, Texas. They were the parents
of Edward Miller Carl, Jr.
Euna Ellerfair Posey was born on 2 July 1888 in Rural Shade, a farming
community twenty miles southeast of Corsicana in southeastern Navarro County,
Texas. Her parents were Lonnie and Margaret Frances Elizabeth Martin.
Her father, a farmer, died when she was young and her mother remarried.
She had a brother, William Posey and a half-sister, Mattie McDonald (Justice).
Edward and Euna met in Corsicana and were married in Houston in 1906. In
May 1909 they had a son, Edward Jr. and in December 1910 a daughter, Minnie,
joined the family. In April 1919 their lives changed. There are two versions
of the story. According to Ed's family, he came home early from work and found
Euna with another man. He immediately took the children and went to live
with his brother. However, she was the one who filed for divorce and described
a very unhappy marriage. She claimed in her application that he had been
Ôguilty of the grossest cruelty and neglect, that he scarcely ever
would take her anywhere with him but would go to places of amusement alone,
refusing to take her; that he had an extreme dislike and contempt for [her]
relatives and humiliated and hurt [her] feelings by abusing her people and
refusing to eat at the same table with them, and also forbade them to come
to his house; that for several years prior to the [April] separation, [she]
had to sew to earn a livelihood, he failing and refusing to provide sufficient
means for her support and maintenance. That he was also extremely jealous
and accused her of various acts of infidelity which were untrue, and in fact
imputed to her a lack of chastity in the presence of herself and of others,
there being absolutely no foundation for such unjust and slanderous charges,
and that his conduct on the whole was of such a nature as to render their
further living together insupportable.
PICTURES OF EUNA POSEY CARL
She
was granted the divorce but Ed was given custody of the children, both
were unusual events in those days. Perhaps it was because she would have
had a hard time raising the children on her own. Euna married two more times,
the first to Wm. E Mondell, a Mason (1888-1943) and the second time to
Charles 'Buck' Peters. She lost contact with
her children until her son contacted her before he married in 1940. She
was pleased to become part of his life again and to play the role of grandmother,
bringing silver dollars for her grandchildren when she came to visit. She
died on 15 Sept 1961 in Nevada, Missouri and is buried in the Corsicana City
Cemetery. Her (Mondell) marker indicates she was in Eastern Star. Her son
remembers her being a excellent seamstress and loving pretty, expensive clothes.
Ed Jr.'s cousin remembers her as always smelling good and having a sweet
smile. She described herself as a very hard worker and said originally she
had brown eyes and blond hair that turned dark auburn. Late in her life she
ran a motel in Deming, NM with her third husband. She attended Cumberland
Presbyterian Church. From the bad spelling and grammar in her letters, she
probably didn't receive much formal education but that would have been common
for a woman of her time.
Edward Miller Carl,
Sr. was born on 25 December
1881 in Benton County, Arkansas. His parents were John Hammock and Mary Elizabeth Swank Carl. He had six brothers
and one sister. In 1885 his family traveled from Arkansas to Texas. While
on the trip, he slipped on ice in Dennison, Texas and broke his leg. The
only physician available was a railroad doctor who set his leg improperly
and as he grew to maturity that leg was shorter than the other, crippling
him. But even with his disability he was obviously able to work. He entered
the oil business as a young man and participated in the early day operations
at Corsicana, Spindletop, Humble and Sour Lake. He met Euna when he was
working on the oil wells on his brother Tom's farm. Ed and Euna took a train
to Houston where they married in 1906. From there, they traveled by train
to the Beaumont area where Ed had secured employment on an oil drilling rig,
but Ed left the job because of fear of the effects of the sulfuric gas produced
by the wells. The couple returned to Corsicana and Ed again worked on his
brother's oil wells. By then they had moved into town and eventually opened
a grocery store. Euna was in charge of the store and Ed worked in a plant
that fabricated oil field equipment. Ed later took a job in the post office.
We have a copy of his Statement of Case Examination for the United States
Post Office in Corsicana. He handled 1000 cards with only 5 misthrown, 99
1/2 % correct, in 31 minutes - 'a very fine showing' was noted in the remarks.
PICTURES OF EDWARD MILLER CARL, SR.
In 1919 he and Euna divorced
and after living with his brother for a while, he took his children and
moved to San Antonio to be within walking distance to the Prospect Hill
Methodist Church were his elder brother, Newt, was pastor. (In Ed Carl, Jr's
autobiography, he said his family for generations had been Methodists. He
also said his Uncle Newt graduated from the seminary of Southwestern University.)
At this time Ed Sr's parents moved from Austin to live with him and his two
children. In December of that year his father died and his mother took over
the running of the household and raising of the children. Another of Ed's
brothers, Frank, owned an oil lease in Somerset, south of San Antonio and
Ed started work there pumping and gauging the production of the several wells.
He and Frank went into business as the Carl Brothers Drilling Company and
for several years they drilled in several areas of South Texas. While working
the Somerset lease, he met Minnie Marion Fulkes, the niece of the landowner
and in 1922 they married even though she was 20 and he was 40. He made a
lot of money but lost most of it in the Great Depression. Ed and Minnie had
two children, John Wesley Carl born 19 December 1926 and William Paul born
7 December 1933. In 1949, after the death of his mother, Ed and Minnie moved
to Austin so Paul could attend UT. At around this time J.W. served in the
navy during the Korean War. On 8 July 1956 Ed died from a stroke and was
buried in the Capitol Memorial Park north of Austin. Minnie later moved in
with J.W.'s family in San Antonio. Mr. Carl had some quirks, one of which
was that he would only eat off a white plate, another was that none of his
food could be touching each other. He also refused to let his wife have any
control or access to money; he would give her a house allowance weekly. He
doesn't sound like he was a very nice person, but perhaps he was just a man
of his time.
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Previous
Generation
Margaret Frances Elizabeth
Martin and Lonnie Posey were married around 1887. They were the parents
of Euna Ellerfair Posey (Carl Mondell Peters).
Margaret Frances Elizabeth
Martin was born in Tennessee
in 1872 and, as so many people seemed to be doing around that time, she and
her family went to Texas. Around 1887 she married Lonnie Posey and settled
down in Rural Shade, a farming community twenty miles southeast of Corsicana
in southeastern Navarro County, Texas. Rural Shade was first settled in
1850 and by 1885 it consisted of a blacksmith shop, a sawmill, three gristmills,
three general stores, four cotton gins, and an estimated population of
seventy-five. Margaret Frances, known as Fannie, and Lonnie had two children.
He was 22 and she was 16 when Euna Ellerfair Posey was born. Their second
child was a son, William Posey, born in 1890. (William was murdered at
the age of 31 when he had an argument with one of his oil well drilling
crew, hit him with a hoe and the man shot him with a 30-30 rifle.) The same
year William was born, Lonnie died of pneumonia. After her husband's death,
Fannie married Wilton O. McDonald and they had a daughter, Mattie McDonald
(Justice). Fannie Posey McDonald died in 1919 and was buried in Navarro
County.
Lonnie Posey was born in Alabama around 1866. We know very
little about him except that he was a farmer, he married Fannie Martin, had
two children and died in 1890. He is presumed buried in Rural Shade.
WEDDING PICTURES OF FANNIE MARTIN AND LONNIE POSEY;
AND MARY SWANK AND JOHN CARL
Mary Elizabeth Swank
and John Hammock Carl were married on 5 September 1869. They were the parents
of Edward Miller Carl, Sr.
Mary Elizabeth Swank was born 6 December 1853 in Phillips County, Arkansas,
the daughter of Amanda Miller and the Rev. David Swank. In 1868 she met
and on 5 September 1869 she married John Hammock Carl. They had eight children,
seven boys and a girl. Their names were William Newton, Thomas Robert,
John Franklin, David Hervey, Henry Samuel called Den, Sarah Ellen called
Ella, Edward Miller and Loney Lee. On 20 October 1885 they loaded all their
belongings into two covered wagons and set off for Texas. According to
the book Oak Hill Cedar Valley Pioneers ÒAfter crossing the wilderness
of Oklahoma, then called the Cherokee Nation, they stopped near Bowie in
Montague County, Texas. The family then moved to the William Swank farm
north of Bluff Springs.' (Mary's oldest brother was named William; he was
eventually murdered by a Baptist preacher according to an entry in the
family Bible!) After moving several times where there was work, they returned
to Travis County in 1890 and lived west of Pleasant Hill school until most
of their children were married. They then moved to Corsicana, to Dallas
then back to Austin until her husband's health failed and they moved in
with their newly divorced son, Edward in San Antonio.
According to her grandson
Edward Jr.'s autobiography, after John H.'s death, Mary , at the age of
65 Òcontinued to care for my father and us children by doing the cooking,
mending, housekeeping and washing for all of us. She was an amazing little
woman. I thoroughly loved my Grandmother Carl's cooking. It was a'pinch
of this and a pinch of that'. Her biscuits were big and fluffy. She used
dried fruits to make tarts and diced bacon to make corn bread pone patties
and mashed potatoes with onions to make potato patties. She was a devout
Christian and a strict disciplinarian, in addition to being thrifty and frugal.'
Her granddaughter-in-law, Mercy Carl, remembers her as being a skillful practitioner
of Reflexology, therapeutic foot massage. From her business card, Mary
Carl was the proprietress of the Ladies Massage Parlors in Austin. (I'm
sure it was very different from the massage parlors of our day.) She died
in San Antonio on 24 April 1949 at the age of 95 and was buried next to her
husband in the Mission Burial Park in San Antonio.
From childhoods picking
cotton and other hard farm labor, Mary and John's children had interesting
lives. According to an article in an unidentified newspaper, the oldest
son, Wm Newt, born near Maysville in Benton Co., Ark. on 24 July 1870 was
converted in 1884 and joined the Methodist Church, South, in 1892. He moved
to Austin, Tx with his parents and preached in the Methodist Church in Bastrop.
He was graduated from Dr. David Swank's School of Pantherapy and Osteopathology
in 1902. (I don't know if that David Swank was related to Mary. Her father,
David Swank didn't die until 1906 and she had a brother David as well.)
He then studied law under Sanbourn and Shelton of Austin and was granted
a permanent license to practice in all the courts of Texas. This was the
Newt who was the pastor of the Prospect Hill Methodist Church in San Antonio.
Mary and John's third
son, John Franklin Carl was at one time Associate Justice of the Fourth
Court of Civil Appeals in San Antonio, and secretary of the State Council
of Defense during World War I. But on 1 September 1924 he disappeared while
in Austin and was only found 10 months later. He was eventually adjudged
to be insane and was committed to the state insane asylum. Considered a brilliant
lawyer, all he could say about his disappearance was 'The lights went out
and I don't know what happened then.' Dave, the fourth son, was an experienced
oil well driller and made a lot of money in the development of the huge oil
field near Burkburnette in North Texas. Dave and Ed Carl, Sr. went into business
as the Carl Brothers Drilling Company.
PICTURES OF JOHN AND MARY
CARL IN LATER YEARS
John Hammock Carl was born on 5 April 1847 in Benton County, Arkansas,
the son of Synthia W. Maxwell and Thomas Carl. In September 1863, at the
age of 16, he enlisted in Company B, Browns Battalion, Confederate Cavalry
where he served until September 1864. He was then transferred to Company
H, 17th Arkansas Cavalry and served until May 1865 when he was paroled
at Jackson, Mississippi. He married Mary Elizabeth Swank on 5 September,
1869. They lived with his father, Thomas Carl, for a while after the death
of Thomas' wife Synthia in 1871. Then in 1885 John H. moved his family to
Texas. He worked as a farmer in several places until he and his wife moved
to Austin in 1911. They had a house across the street from Brackenridge
Hospital. He joined the State Capitol Police force where he was in charge
of the guards on the Capitol grounds, a position created for elderly Confederate
veterans. He died in San Antonio in 1919, his body still containing some
musket balls he received during the Civil War. Because of his service in
the War, his widow received a pension the rest of her life. (Confederate
Pension Warrant No. 101715.) John was a Mason, a member of Onion Creek Lodge,
No. 220 in Travis County. He was also a member of Prospect Hill Methodist
Church where his son, Newt, was pastor.
According to the book
Oak Hill Cedar Valley Pioneers, 'The Carl family was the average of good
American people. Their faults were not of a vicious nature. Each of them were
embued with outstanding individualism. A firm conviction abided in all,
that each could take care of himself.' They might have been rugged individualists,
but at least one of their descendants had very negative views of John H.
Carl. One of his grandsons, Fred Carl, when I interviewed him at the age
of 80 something, still shook with rage when he told me about how mean and
cruel his grandfather was. He also said after his grandfather died and
was laid out, as was custom at the time, on the kitchen table to be prepared
for burial, Fred's father insisted Fred go touch the musket balls in John
H's back. It must have been a traumatic thing for a child to do because
he remembered it with horror his entire life. There seems to be a pattern
of cruelty and insensitivity in the Carl men. Ed Carl, Sr. was divorced
because of his cruelty. His father, John H. Carl was seemingly also cruel
and Fred's father, Tom Carl, Ed Sr's brother showed a decided lack of sensitivity
in making his son touch his grandfather's dead body. And, to be honest,
Ed Carl, Jr. often showed a lack of sensitivity and kindness to his wife,
Mercy. Ed, Jr. said a void had been created in his life without the love
and care of a devoted mother. As an adult he became aware of what her leaving
had denied him of family unity and love. I took that to mean he had never
learned how to show love. Perhaps that's true, but it didn't help that he
had such 'rugged individualists' i.e. cold, cruel men in his family.
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Previous
Generation
Sallie Westbrook married
James Nathan Martin. They were the parents of Margaret Frances Martin (Posey
McDonald).
Sallie Westbrook was born on 10 September 1841 in North Carolina.
She and her husband James Nathan Martin were the parents of Margaret Frances
Martin who was born in Tennessee in 1872. The family eventually moved
to Texas. Sallie died on 20 February 1927 in Kerens, Texas. According to
the Handbook of Texas, e, fourteen miles east of Corsicana in eastern Navarro
County, was established in 1881 when the St. Louis Southwestern Railway
of Texas built through the county. A post office opened in 1882, and the
town was incorporated in 1888. W. P. Noble was the first mayor, and Sam
Sluggs was sheriff. By the mid-1890s the town had three cotton gin-mills,
four grocery stores, two hotels, two drug stores, a wagonmaker, and a weekly
newspaper named the Navarro Blade. The estimated population in 1896 was
500. The first school was built shortly after the town was founded, and
by 1906 two schools were operating, one with 242 white students and one
with 121 black students. Kerens reached a peak population of 1,800 in
1929 and afterward declined.
James Nathan Martin was also born in North Carolina, but it isn't
known where or when he married. He died in Navarro County, Texas.
PICTURES OF SALLIE WESTBROOK
AND JAMES NATHAN MARTIN
Amanda Miller and the
Rev. David Swank married on 15 March 1849. They were the parents of Mary
Elizabeth Swank (Carl).
Amanda Miller was born 24 December 1831 in Arkansas, the daughter
of Pamelia (Pamela? Permelia?) Caroline Carothers and Robert Richardson
Miller. R.R. Miller was born in Virginia in about 1810. His first wife,
Pamelia, was born in Tennessee in 1813. They were married 6 January 1831 according
to an entry in the family Bible. In 1850 the family was living in Union Township
of St. Francis County, Arkansas. There seems to be some difference of opinion
about how many children were in the family 10 or 12 but whichever, Amanda
was the oldest. By 1860, the Miller family had moved to Greene County, Arkansas
and settled in St. Francis Township. By this time another child had been
born. Apparently Pamelia Miller died sometime during the 1850s (not surprising,
having had 10 or 12 children), because the 1860
census listed Robert's wife as Matilda. Family legend says that Amanda was
a good horsewoman (perhaps her Virginia heritage) and that she was rescued
by David Swank when she tried to cross a swollen stream. That was how they
met. Amanda married David Swank on 15 March 1849. (One of David's brothers,
Jacob, married one of Amanda's sisters Martha, seemingly not uncommon in
that day.) In the 1850 census, Amanda was listed as living with her parents.
That was because David had gone to prospect in the 1849 California Gold
Rush. Their first child was also born in 1849. She and David eventually
had 12 children. She died on 12 October 1881 in Denver, Colorado. Both Edward
Miller Carl Sr. and Jr. were given the Miller name to honor her family.
The Rev. David Swank was born on 15 September 1823 in Hardin County,
Kentucky. He was the son of Elizabeth Van Meter and Jacob Swank. On the
Van Meter line, we have information dating back to 1662 when Jan Joosten
Van Meteren married Maeyken Hendricksin in Holland. Elizabeth Van Meter is
supposed to have been President Tyler's cousin. According to notes compiled
by Ed Carl, Jr., the Swanks were part of the group of early Americans called
Pennsylvania Dutch. (The Dutch was a corruption of Deutsch, meaning German.)
This name was applied to Swiss, German and even French Huguenots who arrived
in America in the 1700s and early 1800s and settled in south-central and
eastern Pennsylvania. Almost all of these immigrants came from the area of
South Germany known as The Palatinate so they were called Palatines. Apparently
our Swanks initially arrived and settled in Pennsylvania but later migrated
to Kentucky as recruited members of one of Daniel Boone's return trips.
Later, possibly because of Indian uprisings in Kentucky, they moved to what
is now Mississippi County in Missouri. Supposedly some of our Swanks fought
in the American Revolution under Mad Anthony Wayne. David was a lay Methodist
minister and circuit rider. David and Amanda lived in Arkansas and eventually
ended up in Corsicana where he died there on 11 February 1906. He is buried
in Pettys Chapel Cemetery.
PICTURES OF AMANDA MILLER SWANK
AND MARY SWANK; AND OF THOMAS AND SYNTHIA CARL AND HIS FIRST FAMILY WITH
NANCY SHED
Synthia W. Maxwell married
Thomas Carl. They were the parents of John Hammock Carl.
Synthia W. Maxwell was born on 6 January 1811 in Arkansas. She was
the second wife of Thomas Carl and bore him seven children: Sarah, Nancy,
Sybel, John Hammock (our ancestor), Zack and Henry. Ed Carl, Jr's notes
say two of their daughters died, one in infancy and the other at an early
age but he also says Zack died in infancy. There is also a discrepancy in
the spelling of Sara and Syble's names, but that wasn't uncommon in those
days. Even though Synthia (our modern spelling would be Cynthia) was nine
years younger than Thomas, he outlived her by 20 years. Again from Ed's
notes: 'In that period, women married at an early age, bore children every
year or two and rarely lived beyond the age of 45 or 50.. A woman's life
in that era was expended in child birth and hard work, and their years were
usually limited because of this.' Synthia died on 21 February 1871, having
reached the age of 60. She and Thomas are both buried in the Word Cemetery
about three miles from Decatur, Arkansas.
Thomas Carl was born on 24 March 1802 in Dutchess County,
New York, the son of William Carl and Anna Finger. Family lore has it that
he was the oldest of seven brothers. Also that he was apprenticed to a tailor
in his youth, and when he'd learned how to make a suit of clothes, he
ran away to escape the tailor's ill treatment. We don't know where he went
after that but his name was recorded in the 1830 census as living in Franklin
County, Tennessee. He first married a Nancy Shed probably in 1823 after he
was 21 years old. He and Nancy had five sons and a daughter and in 1838 moved
from Tennessee to Mulberry near Van Buren in Arkansas where Nancy died on
1 September 1839. Following the death of his wife, Thomas Carl sold his
farm and moved to a place on Osage Creek, six miles south of Bentonville,
Arkansas. It was near Bentonville, which is in northwest Arkansas just south
of the Missouri state line, where he met and married Synthia W. Maxwell.
Later he sold that farm and moved to Prairie Grove, Washington County and
lived for several years. Then he sold that farm and bought another west of
Bentonville, on Little Flint Creek, near Round Prairie. After the Civil War,
in 1866, he sold that and bought another on Spavinaw Creek, eleven miles from
Maysville which is just east of the Oklahoma state line. He lived on that
farm until after his wife's death. His son John H. and John's wife Mary Elizabeth
Carl lived with him for a while after Synthia's death, but after they moved
to their own farm, Thomas lived among his other children. He died 11 January
1891 at the home of his daughter, Mrs. Dennis Chastain.
Ed Carl, Jr. always claimed
his father's family was German but one of his cousins who was also a grandson
of Thomas, wrote that Thomas claimed he was an Irishman and that his father
and a brother came to America as stowaways. Some have speculated that they
were stowaways from Long Island, not Ireland, since Long Island was originally
under Dutch control, but that doesn't fit with Thomas' reluctance to talk
about his father's origins for fear of being deported. Thomas's son, John
H. Carl, subscribed to the Belfast Times from Northern Ireland after he
moved his family from Arkansas to Pleasant Hill south of Austin. This would
tend to lend credence to the Irish connection, but it has not been proven.
On our trip to Ireland, I talked to the people at the Palatine Museum where
records were kept of all the Germans who came directly to Ireland from the
Palatinate region of Germany. There were no Carls in their records but since
he was supposedly in Belfast, Northern Ireland, he could have come through
England before reaching Ireland.